And so we need to solve that problem. When we have leaders who speak truth to their constituents, that is when it takes hold. Josh Hawley, it should be said, went to Yale Law School, arguably the finest law school in the country. And so I think they were right to impeach. You had 10 Republicans in the House, hardly — that's not very many, but it's more than certainly the last time the president was impeached. And then what this says about where we are as a country, Judy, I think we are in — I think we're at the beginning of the middle. There are serious conversations that need to be had within the Republican Party and also within — among people, as David was talking about, who are conservative and who support the Republican Party and support their candidates and their leaders. Please try again. Went to — he clerked for John — Justice Roberts. So, David, finally, is it a good thing for Joe Biden to begin his presidency, back to impeachment, with an impeachment trial in the Senate competing for attention and for time and everything, for that matter? But I see a strange upside in the Hawley stunt, which is this. Yes, I completely support impeachment, think this is the right thing to do. Five people died as a direct result of that, then, a week later, President Trump impeached, with only a few days left in office, impeached a second time. B, it'll stoke all the flames. And it's in every speech, it's in every comment, it's in every — it'll be in every policy. They haven't had the chance to have votes on things, because Mitch McConnell only really cares about judicial confirmations. So, David, it was just two Wednesdays ago that there was the attack on the Capitol. Copy failed. Shields and Brooks on election results, Trump’s resistance. I care about you. What about the move to impeach and about where we are left as a country after January 6? And I do think that's the beginning of turning around. Go ahead. I think we all agree it's been a terrible year, thanks to the pandemic. And so it means, going forward, the Republicans are going to do a lot of performative display of Trumpian unreality. I think the move to impeach was necessary. NEW YORK — Add Garth Brooks to the lineup of entertainers at the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden. Thank you for being here. Fixed iFrame Width: in pixels px Height: in pixels px. We could have done better. Copy Copied! Clip: 10/16/2020 | 11m 9s | Video has closed captioning. We are reeling from it now. That is New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart, columnist for The Washington Post. Posted each Friday by 9 p.m., the Shields and Brooks podcast includes the full audio of every on-air segment. And if that's not an impeachable offense, then nothing is. Clip: 08/28/2020 | 12m | Video has closed captioning. Responsive iFrame Copy Copied! And, Jonathan, clearly, a lot to sort out here. And I never can permanently believe that America is a nation in decline, sliding, but it was certainly a year where decline seemed to be very much in the air. He is not in — he has zero standing to raise this point, because, unless I have missed something, I don't see him taking the Brooksian approach of limiting it to people who earn a certain amount or doing other things that would be more targeted, like extending unemployment benefits. Sure. And while there is a capacity to come together through the desire to spend money — that's what Congress is really good at doing — it's not really good at getting a lot of other things done. It is necessary, for what I said — the reason I said before, because of the message it would send to someone who might try what President Trump did in the future. And have that come from the number one leader within — elected leader within the Republican Party, which, right now — correct me if I'm wrong, David — is still Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, on down. Well, the polls have ticked up for both Democrats. Clip: 11/13/2020 | 11m 59s | Video has closed captioning. I'm helping you. Subscribe to Here’s the Deal, our politics newsletter for analysis you won’t find anywhere else. This is not the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning. I mean, this dispute over the $2,000 check to people. That's New York Times columnist David Brooks and Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus. He's not only sided with the president on this. He sort of passed that up and went for sort of a populist-in-language, corporate-in-talk presidency — or corporate in action. What do you make of what Josh Hawley is up to? I just hope the Senate — I hope the Senate does both. He's no intellectual slouch. The Susan Collinses and others of the world notwithstanding, this is a body and a political system, more broadly, that rewards obstructionism, and through the primary process is only going to reward obstructionism. PBS NewsHour. And so a lot of people, especially in the Senate, want to have votes. Larry Summers, the — Barack Obama and Bill Clinton's economist, says there's some danger of overheating the economy if we do that. And so I think McConnell's mostly right on the merits. PBS NewsHour. It's just not a good use of federal funds. We were failed by our institutions, including the CDC and the FDA, big time. So, I — maybe we're switching roles in 2021 or something. Season 2020 Episode 12/04/2020. Yes, I just think we — our legislative capacities are not very high right now. And speaking of — one of you mentioned Josh Hawley. And the executive branch can't just go off inciting riots to take over the legislative branch. And so the other way to look at it is, any vote that Mitch McConnell fervently wants to avoid is a vote that, in some way, I'm happy to have. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/brooks-and-marcus-on-american-politics-in-2020-and-its-impact-on-democracy, WATCH: In a first, Congress overrides Trump veto of defense bill, 2020 was a year of loss. I think it leaves the Republican Party as divorced from reality intact even in a post-Trump era. So, there could be consequences there. Any consequences from this, or are we just going to forget about it and move on to the next thing in a few weeks? Democracy in — at the end of 2020 looked to me a lot more fragile than I understood it to be at the start of the year, especially the aftermath of the election, where we saw what everybody had assumed was a really unassailable democratic norm, that you would accept, even if — a president as irresponsible and self-involved and unpatriotic as Donald Trump would accept the — in the end, however, grudgingly and ungraciously, the results of a democratic election. We could have had — that 20 million figure is just appalling. And if Hawley makes his colleagues take this to a vote, at least we will finally know, who are the Republican senators who are just so dedicated to the cult of Trump that they will go along with the Hawleys of the Senate, and who are the ones who are respecting the Constitution? But I think that Mitch McConnell has a point about the — and others — about the size of the checks, along with David and Larry Summers. And so this is, in a way, a weird democracy in action, the Republican Party trying to figure itself out. John Hagee, a very Trumpy pastor in Texas, said, that was not patriotism. And yet he's pretending that something is true that he has to know is not true because it plays to his base. Jonathan, what about that? It airs seven nights a week and is known for its in-depth coverage of issues and current events. I think Mitch McConnell and John Thune, who we saw earlier in the program, are essentially right. We need to pass this piece of legislation; $1.9 trillion is a very complicated piece of legislation. New York Times columnist David Brooks and Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus join Judy Woodruff to discuss the year in politics, including the … Shields and Brooks on Trump’s RNC, the politics of protests. I agree with David. Like, what's going on in that guy's head as he sees Hawley do this? And, David, what about going forward? Hello to both of you on this Friday evening. And Mike said: I looked back on that speech, and it seems so naive now. The early voting in kind was more in support of the Democratic side. I do think there are a lot of people in Congress who I talk to who really want to pass legislation. I'm just thinking that we have undercounted Trump and the Republican supporters pretty often in the last several years, and so I wouldn't get too confident if I was a Democrat. But Mike went back and looked at that speech this week, and he said, I — we could still count on an underlying unity to the country, and we could appeal to that in the inauguration. So, David, I'm going to give you the last word, unless you leave time for Jonathan again. Syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks join Amna Nawaz to discuss the week in politics, including whether reparations can be a viable campaign issue, social media in politics, the president’s rhetoric on moving immigrants to sanctuary cities, a shakeup at the Department of Homeland Security and the congressional testimony of Attorney General … What we are now about to talk about in this country is about deep fissures and deep pain within this country that's centered around race. PBS NewsHour - Shields and Brooks PBS NewsHour News 4.6 • 940 Ratings; Listen on Apple Podcasts. Not a lot of joy on this New Year's Day, but we are really, really glad to see both of you. But it seems like Donald Trump and his supporters have been doing everything they can to make life harder for Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue and — in their argument that the Georgia election was rigged, so you can't trust the system, and their argument that you need to reelect these Republican senators, so they can go to Washington, back to Washington, and continue to block your $2,000 checks. And that's hard for a party to expunge. I mean, de Tocqueville said, Americans may be individualistic, but they can act as what he called the social body, when, in a crisis, they can come together and really solve a problem. Clip: 01/01/2021 | 12m 38s | Video has closed captioning. The Friday discussion segments will be known as Brooks & Capehart, and will be moderated by NewsHour anchor Judy Woodruff. And we certainly are not doing it now. There are some reports that, in the House, you could get over more than 100 House members siding with the Hawley side. We mark this momentous week with the next chapter in a "NewsHour" tradition. It's bad news for the future in the way that I was talking about earlier, in terms of just erasing norms of behavior and allowing just dangerous arguments to go forward. David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart on Trump and the military. We never shut down the way other countries did. He felt — he felt their pain. Inauguration of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, PBS NewsHour Learn more about Friends of the NewsHour. Watch Full Length. It's got a child tax — care tax credit. New York Times columnist David Brooks and Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus join Judy Woodruff to … I mean, what — I'm thinking, I'm wondering, what is it that Joe Biden is inheriting here as he steps into the presidency next Wednesday? Clip: 12/18/2020 | 13m 23s | Video has closed captioning. We're reeling from it now. I mean, how much difference do you believe Joe Biden can make as president in what we face as a country? That was true before Donald Trump came on the scene, and it remains true after he leaves. But what do you — what are you taking away from it? Let's start, David, by looking back at — I'm sorry — at 2020 and lessons learned. What about that — those arguments? All Rights Reserved. Shields and Brooks on danger of Trump’s refusal to concede. The part that, for me, is unsettling is the lessons on democracy. We had a Georgia reporter yesterday saying the Democrats look to be in strong shape. It's got all these physical manifestations of government saying, this is a hard time. Is a trial necessary? And you found some people really doubling down on Trump, saying it was all Antifa, et cetera, et cetera. Check out lesson plans under “additional resources” below. And what about the political fallout from it, if any? tags: Biden, Current Affairs, David Brooks, Impeachment, Joe Biden, Jonathan Capehart, Judy Woodruff, Pandemic Relief, PBS, PBS Newshour… And so what you're seeing — and a lot of people who have — who have made these comments against the marches, against Trump have received vicious backlashes. Joe Biden has to pass that legislation. And so he's got this $1.9 trillion COVID relief. Thank you. Jonathan Capehart, the Washington Post columnist and MSNBC anchor, is joining PBS NewsHour as a regular contributor and will succeed Mark Shields as … And so I remain much more hopeful about the legislative process next year than maybe most. I know that's a big question, but — and in particular, what about the Republican Party? And I think, if the Biden/Harris administration pushes forward and keeps empathy at the top of their agenda, at the top of what they have to say to the country, I think they will succeed in showing all of America that they care about them. I have to say, emotionally, I feel, somehow, weirdly, that impeaching the president of the United States is still emotionally overshadowed by the events that happened on January 6 and by the turmoil that has been set off within families, within churches ever since. PBS NewsHour. We would have had a lot of damage and tragedy and economic distress, but not on the scale that we are having, with a better government. What are your sources, what's your reporting telling you? New York Times columnist David Brooks and Washington Post columnist Jonathan Capehart join Judy Woodruff to discuss the week in politics, including President Trump’s historic impeachment, the fallout from the Capitol insurrection and President-elect Biden’s economic relief plan. Listen to Mark Shields and David Brooks analyze the political news of the week. Copy failed. We just had a horrifying report 10 minutes ago on COVID. I think it was the one thing — the one big attribute that he had that was his calling card in this election, that he was someone who, when he spoke and people looked at him, they felt in their bones that he felt in their bones whatever issue that was hurting them. That doesn't seem like a winning argument to me. And now, for the final Friday analysis of the Trump presidency, we turn to Brooks and Capehart. That was anarchy. And I choose the COVID relief bill. Well, I'm thinking I'm usually the pessimist and David's usually the optimist. Somehow, race, extreme nationalism, Christian nationalism, it's all — economic anxieties — it's all become fused into one poisonous fiber. So, the impeachment happened, but we're still reeling as a nation in a way that seems to me somehow even larger than that. Shields and Brooks on Barrett hearing, dueling town halls. There are a lot of moderates who realize this is their moment, this is the moment they can stop the party leaders who want to get super partisan. So, I see way fewer possibilities there. And, David, what about right now? Inauguration of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Clip: 09/18/2020 | 12m 19s | Video has closed captioning. And this is my first time disagreeing with my friend David. And what about you, Ruth? Please try again. Fixed iFrame Width: in pixels px Height: in pixels px. And I'd love to know what's in the head of normal, rational Republicans like John Thune, who we keep mentioning. Subscribe to Here’s the Deal, our politics newsletter for analysis you won’t find anywhere else. Copy failed. It had to happen. But I really hope that David's right and I'm wrong on this one, because there is a lot of legislative need. PBS NewsHour. The Republican Party will find it very easy just to go in opposition mode. Now we're going back to our usual corners, because I am a sort of "glasses three-quarters empty and not one-quarter full" person when it comes to the capacity of President Biden to get things through this Senate, certainly if Mitch McConnell and Republicans retain control of the Senate. And these are — this has to be done physically, not just with words. And over the last few cycles, what we have seen is a Senate that gets nothing done, unless it's confirming judges or voting on inconsequential legislation. I think it'd be a bad thing to have to trial in the Senate. Copy Copied! Clip: 09/25/2020 | 13m 16s | Video has closed captioning. And maybe, in — a Senate trial, A, takes up a lot of time. They come here to do hard things. This is the moment they — Susan Collins has the power to stop a lot of stuff if she wants to. They can do both. And talk about a person who is the person for the time. I mean, if anything, if there is a word to describe president-elect Joe Biden, it is empathetic. Jonathan Capehart, the Washington Post columnist and MSNBC anchor, is joining PBS NewsHour as a regular contributor and will succeed Mark Shields as part of the Friday evening political commentary segments with David Brooks. Please try again. One is a more hopeful vision of the pandemic lessons, which is that good government, responsible leadership, capable management could have worked. You had a lot of people, the majority of people in the white evangelical church, saying, this is not what — how did this happen? PBS NewsHour. So, David, where do we go from here? New York Times columnist David Brooks and Washington Post columnist Jonathan Capehart join Judy Woodruff to discuss the week in politics, including President Trump’s historic impeachment, the fallout from the Capitol insurrection and President-elect Biden’s economic relief plan. PBS NewsHour. PBS NewsHour. Well, our "NewsHour" friend Mike Gerson wrote George W. Bush's inaugural speech in 2001, and that was a bitterly divided election, if you remember 2000. And we more or less failed to do that. In his final regular appearance on the NewsHour, we celebrate Mark Shields and his storied career in journalism and politics. That was horrifying. That is Brooks and Capehart. New York Times columnist David Brooks and Washington Post columnist Karen Tumulty join Amna Nawaz to discuss the week in politics, including a … Some Republicans have really stood up, like Ben Sasse from Nebraska, but is the rest of the party really going to follow him? And so there's a lot of pent-up demand to pass legislation. Yes, I wish I could come up with something good, but this was a year we sort of lost faith in ourselves. Where does — where does the Republican Party head and the American people, still divided over what happened? Copy failed. I think it would be a very wise idea to give people who make under $60,000 those $2,000 checks. Please check your inbox to confirm. But it's bad news for Republican Parties going forward. Clip: 11/20/2020 | 14m 48s | Video has closed captioning. He's siding with the president — he's spoken up and said he's going to be the senator — so far, the only one — who has said he's going to object to the electors being counted for Joe Biden next week. But I actually take away two things from 2020. Joining our longtime Friday analyst, David Brooks… What about the argument he's making, that this — this is something that country needs to do? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/brooks-and-capehart-on-trumps-impeachment-and-bidens-relief-plan, American Reckoning – A PBS NewsHour Special Report, After failed insurrection, an unprecedented show of force in the nation’s capital, Biden unveils $1.9 trillion plan to address crises on multiple fronts. Subscribe to ‘Here's the Deal,’ our politics newsletter. And there are a lot of issues on which that legislation can be passed, not everything. We just have had messing up at every single level. PBS NewsHour. Shields, a syndicated columnist, and New York Times columnist David Brooks have been doing the regular Friday discussion segments since 2001, … Brooks and Marcus on American politics in 2020 and its impact on Democracy from PBS NewsHour - Shields and Brooks on Podchaser, aired Friday, 1st January 2021. And so you can get — I think that bill can be supported, and we can get $1.9 trillion out the door to the American people, but it's not going to be an easy lift. So, I guess we're going to have it. At NewsHour EXTRA, we’ve been developing lessons and resources to contextualize the moment in a broader narrative of U.S. history. Too often, during the four long years of the Trump presidency, Republican lawmakers, especially in the Senate, have been able to avoid taking a stand on some of the outrageous things that he's doing. I think one of the ways to remarry reality to a lot of the folks within the Republican Party is to have leaders within the Republican Party who start talking truth again, who start talking about what's really happening, doing away with the theater of outrage and all of that, but dealing with, OK, this is what the problems are, here's where we are as a country, and here is our solution, as a Republican Party, as conservatives, and have that argument based on — based in fact. 17/01/2021. And it's not just about the Republican Party, the people who are supporting Trump, but, surely, they are part of it, because they're going to figure out where they are now, where they stand now. Please try again. Subscribe to ‘Here's the Deal,’ our politics newsletter. New York Times columnist David Brooks and Washington Post columnist Jonathan Capehart join Judy Woodruff to discuss the week in politics, including the rampage at the Capitol, President Trump's potential impeachment, and the future of the Republican Party. Jonathan Capehart, David Brooks, we thank you both. And there's nothing harder right now than holding a sitting president, soon-to-be-not sitting president, but to hold a chief executive responsible for very bad acts, but also to help a nation that is reeling from a global pandemic and then the subsequent economic implosion. The president's pushing for it. © 1996 - 2021 NewsHour Productions LLC. And, so far, within the Republican Party, that has just gone like that. And I remain a Biden optimist, a Biden optimist in terms of how much he can actually get done. DOWNLOAD VIDEO Teachers: This past two weeks have been … Responsive iFrame Copy Copied! Shields and Brooks celebrate a lifetime in American politics Major corporate funding for the PBS NewsHour is provided by BNSF, Consumer Cellular, Leidos, Babbel, and Raymond James. I mean, as Ruth says, having an actual professional staff will make a big difference in ways we haven't been able to appreciate. Thank you. But, somehow — we need two responsible parties, and that's part of the job. All Rights Reserved. PBS Newshour: Brooks and Capehart – 15 January 2021 – The Trump impeachment and Biden’s relief plan. I think the possibilities for success in a Biden presidency rest within what's within his control in the executive branch, undoing some of the terrible damage that Trump has done, undoing regulations, passing new regulations, enacting executive orders, to the extent that he has the authority to do that. And Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, Ruth, stopping it dead in its tracks. But the first thing Joe Biden needs to do is, he needs to show physically, materially, he cares about people who think they — he despises them. Well, first, I note the bipartisan sort of agreement on this between Josh Hawley on the right and Bernie Sanders on the left. And, most notably, the person who was carrying that Confederate Flag in the U.S. Capitol, the Confederate Flag, a traitorous flag, that person, thankfully, has been arrested. And so we sort of let each other down. Brooks and Marcus on American politics in 2020. So, there may be consequences, I guess, from Donald Trump as he continues to thunder. And you now have a Senate that seems to be open to an impeachment trial. Shields and Brooks on Trump’s election fraud claims. But there are certain issues where you can get pretty bipartisan support. Watch Full Length. But, meanwhile, half of the party is detached from reality. But I think, when we read about this in the history books, that folks will see that it was a necessary thing, not just to hold President Trump accountable for inciting people to insurrection to try to overthrow the American government, but to send a signal to anyone who might come after Donald Trump to signal to them that, if you try to do the same thing, that there will be consequences. Watch Full Length. New York Times columnist David Brooks and Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus join Judy Woodruff to discuss the year in politics, including the failure of institutions, the long-awaited COVID relief bill, Georgia’s Senate runoffs, and the frailty of Democracy. PBS NewsHour. New York Times columnist David Brooks and Washington Post columnist Karen Tumulty join Amna Nawaz to discuss the week in politics, including a stalemate between Congress and the president over COVID relief, the latest pardons from President Donald Trump and what they learned this week about how the Biden administration is preparing for office. I see no reason why we should give people earning more than that those checks. And so how they figure out — how you reattach people to reality, to facts, how you address the — what Jonathan talked about, the racial issue, the economic resentments, I have lost track of how these things are all separate. Syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks join Judy Woodruff to discuss politics as a noble profession, optimism as a defining American characteristic, and collective sacrifice for the common good. 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